Personal growth in superstar gardens

Dame Judi Dench hates gardening, so perhaps not the most obvious guest for an RHS podcast.

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It’s down to her scoleciphobia: a deep mistrust of worms. “The only thing I’m frightened of are worms,” she tells Jo Whiley in this new series, which acts as a gentle greeting to spring, and a guest pass to the acres of green attached to celebrity homes. Kind of like a middle-aged Cribs.

DJ Jo slows the pace down from the Dig It podcast she hosts with Zoe Ball, and it's a poignant and moving episode with 91-year-old Dame Judi, and a reminder of the seasons of our own life.

They’re chatting on a bench near a beautiful magnolia, which Dame Judi can’t make out, now her eyesight has faded. She can’t see Jo either, and is hoping she doesn’t stumble into her own pond.