Pint and chat was always a good recipe for boss Pulis

TONY Pulis has recalled the value of an evening beer with Dave Kemp as he talked about the art of assistant managers.

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Pulis, who has launched a new podcast called The Managers with Mick McCarthy, listened to this week’s guest Stuart Pearce talk about how he had learnt to second-guess what would help David Moyes after his own experience as a number one.

McCarthy had a strong relationship with Terry Connor while Pulis knew he could rely on his Stoke number two Kemp to have his back - or keep him in line.

“Kempy would never interfere with me when I was talking or in the dressing room,” said Pulis.