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Entrepreneur magazine
|December 2024 - January 2025
Brian Lee cofounded companies like LegalZoom and ShoeDazzle-and he believes a lot of conventional business wisdom is backward. Sure, it's harder to raise capital. But it's actually cheaper than ever to start a company.

Want to think big? Think like Brian Lee. He's the co-founder of LegalZoom, ShoeDazzle, and The Honest Company - each of which were transformative inside of crowded spaces. And here's how he spotted his most recent opportunity. He looked at the trading - card industry, which he says is "relatively small" at just a couple billion dollars. The secondary market for trading and selling those cards is more interesting to him, at maybe $25 billion. There are a lot of players in this space - manufacturers, auction houses, grading companies, and so on. So where would he fit in?
"The reason I'm so excited," he says, "is because that secondary market doesn't really have a brand name. So there's some very large players in the industry, but none of them are household names." Now he's building what he hopes will become that household name; it's called Arena Club, which helps people grade, collect, invest in, sell, and trade cards.
Lee now also invests in startups through his early-stage fund, BAM Ventures. Most startups he sees aren't built for success, he says but the reasons may surprise you. He explains in this conversation.

LegalZoom started as a direct-to-consumer (DTC) legal services company. However, a few years in, we noticed this gentleman in Florida ordering a divorce package probably every week. So after about 12 or 13 divorce orders, we were like, "Wow, this guy's getting married and divorced a lot!"
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