Ordinary People

Challenging childhoods made Debra Oswald and Richard Glover cherish ordinary life. As they cuddle their first grandchild the couple talks to Juliet Rieden about love, parenthood and Debra’s heart-stopping new work.

- Juliet Rieden

Richard Glover is stroking the leaves of his prodigious basil plant expounding the secret to its fragrant glossiness. “It’s the worm poo,” he announces as he leads me to a boxy structure at the back of the garden distilling murky liquid into a plastic bucket. The newspaper columnist, author and ABC radio host proudly lifts the lid of his worm farm to reveal the rotting kitchen scraps on which the Glover 1000-plus worm colony feeds, ultimately resulting in the perfect fertiliser for his basil, which I understand is used in significant quantities for home-made pesto.

Inside the house Richard’s partner of 40 years, creator of hit TV series Offspring, award-winning playwright and best-selling novelist Debra Oswald is busy with The Weekly’s styling team, while sleeping soundly in his mother (daughter-in-law) Shelley’s arms on the sofa is the couple’s brand new and first grandchild, Cassian. Wandering between the family throng making sure everything’s in order is the prince of this suburban idyll, Clancy. The handsome five-year-old kelpie needs no introduction, he’s just as famous as his owners thanks to his regular newspaper column and recent book of letters Love, Clancy. All in all, it’s a pretty regular family scene, which I later realise is the glue at the heart of Richard and Debra’s rather special relationship.