Stereophile|August 2021
At a time of solitude, the guitarist and composer focused on connecting.
Julie Mullins


Dessner, 45, a classically trained guitarist, multiinstrumentalist, and composer, has racked up multi-hyphenates over the last couple of decades of his musical career. Arguably best known for his work with indie rock band The National—where he shares lead guitar, piano, songwriting, and other duties with his identical-twin brother Aaron—he’s also an accomplished arranger and producer, and co-founder of two record labels.

He’s also one of those rare musicians who have authentically crossed—and blurred—the lines between classical music and pop/rock. In a recent phone conversation, we discussed his recent projects, his process, and—of course—music.

Dessner has been working remotely on projects predating the pandemic and also on new collaborations. He’s used to traveling as he works and working as he travels. He writes and composes music while touring with The National—or did until COVID-19 put a temporary end to that. He’s pressed on.

Dessner is American, but he’s been living in Paris for the last handful of years, and he recently moved to the countryside. When we spoke in April, the City of Lights had just entered another lockdown, the pandemic dragging on. For Dessner, as for many, this springtime in Paris hasn’t been like others. “I haven’t seen my band in a year and a half,” he laments. “I haven’t seen my brother in a year and a half.” These haven’t been easy times. But unexpected opportunities have arisen. He and his brother have been working together at a distance—on Taylor Swift’s Folklore, to name one project, which won a 2021 Grammy for Album of the Year. Aaron produced and cowrote songs; Bryce arranged the orchestrations.

Dessner thrives on collaboration, “whether it be [with] great performers or other singers or creators or visual artists or dancers and choreographers or filmmakers.” He has worked with composers Philip Glass, Steve Reich, Sufjan Stevens, Caroline Shaw, and Jonny Greenwood (Radiohead), pianists Katia and Marielle Labèque, and Icelandic performance artist Ragnar Kjartansson. Composition commissions have come from the Los Angeles Philharmonic, the Metropolitan Museum of Art (for the New York Philharmonic), BAM Next Wave Festival, Edinburgh International Festival, Carnegie Hall, Eighth Blackbird, and S Percussion.

Dessner recently released Impermanence/Disintegration, an album of music he composed for the Sydney Dance Company—the score for their contemporary dance piece titled Impermanence — performed by the Australian String Quartet.

This isn’t Dessner’s first experience scoring a dance work. In 2016, the New York City Ballet premiered The Most Incredible Thing, choreographed by Justin Peck to Dessner’s original music.

Music and dance go hand-in-hand: Dancers dance to music; music responds to dance if it’s allowed to. That’s one of the reasons Dessner was drawn to it. “I grew up seeing my sister dance a lot, and so a lot of my early experience is going to see modern dance. And so I have a long relationship with it as an art form.

“I do think one of the great collaborations is between choreographers and composers. And in fact, a lot of my favorite classical music was written for dance—Stravinsky’s Rite of Spring or Tchaikovsky’s ballets,” he said. “There are so many fantastic pieces of music that have been written for dance. So, yeah, I find it very inspiring.”

“The dancers have a beautifully physical and emotional response to music, which is really inspiring and kind of freeing for a composer,” he told me. “The pure concert works, especially in an orchestral setting, can be a bit more intellectual sometimes than that [dance] environment tends to be.” Music for dance “is kind of disarming because you’re always thinking about the body and moving and, you know, what do you want to move to?”

Dessner said Sydney Dance Company Artistic Director Rafael Bonachela gave him “a lot of leeways,” even allowing him to choose the theme and name the work. He was commissioned to create the score prior to the pandemic. Australia’s 2019 wildfires provided themes for Impermanence/Disintegration.

Because of the pandemic, he wasn’t able to be there in person with the Australian String Quartet or the dancers. But Dessner had met the Sydney Dance Company in 2015 when he saw them perform a piece choreographed to a string quartet he’d written for Kronos Quartet, so he knew the dancers. “You think of writing for specific musicians,” he said. “This is kind of written for specific dancers.”

Describing the music’s style, he said, “It loosely divides itself into moments of stillness and of loss, and requiem and mourning for things lost with the planet, or for relationships or whatever it is, and then moments of urgency and more frenetic type of sound.” The album closes with “Another World,” a new version of English musical artist Anohni’s haunting song steeped in rich, soulful vocals. Dessner got Anohni’s permission to include and rework the original 2008 track with a new arrangement including strings.

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